Comments on: 10 Reasons Why Web Ministry Applications and Initiatives Fail

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Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:03:16 +0000

[...] 10 Reasons Why Web Ministry Applications and Initiatives Fail (1) Never Built. (4) Bad Modeling. (8) Strategy. Read the post for the other 7 reasons. [...]

By: human3rror

human3rror — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:04:04 +0000

puahaha. the toolbox mentality is great. thanks for that!

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links for 2009-02-18 | This Inspires Me — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:15:10 +0000

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By: Matt Harrell

Matt Harrell — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:52:12 +0000

Yes…using simple tools to help members communicate better. Tools that slightly expand on what they're used to. Just to make it easier for everyone to connect. I like it .

By: Matt Harrell

Matt Harrell — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:38:13 +0000

John, this is an excellent and timely post for me. And this advice is good for not just churches, but any organization. Building, selling and using software has so many facets it's crazy. I also agree with NicCharalambous that creating software that tries to meet every single need is a mistake. Look at what it's done to some of the big membership management apps that we continue to hear a lot of frustration with. And look at the crazy success of Basecamp and 37Signals (our inspiration for product design). Churches and orgs cannot be afraid to use different tools for different purposes. It's ok for your organization to have a toolbelt of software…or even a toolbox. Good stuff here, thanks! I could comment on almost every point. Maybe if did I could increase my intensedebate count to an acceptable level .

By: human3rror

human3rror — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:44:13 +0000

i purposely left that one out. but yes, thanks for adding it. love the comments that add the love.

By: human3rror

human3rror — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:44:11 +0000

dude. you're speaking my language dude.

By: human3rror

human3rror — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:40:09 +0000

word up man. you're probably learning this as we speak…! expert. word.

By: NicCharalambous

NicCharalambous — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:41:30 +0000

This point ———> You don’t need to satisfy every single problem for every single ministry in one web ministry application or initiative. It’s ok to have more than one! <—————- EPIC!

By: BenCotten

BenCotten — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:05:58 +0000

The "Too Futurist" point hits home with where I am. There are lots of things that I would like to do with our church in this area that we can't. The primary reason is that it wouldn't make sense for our size and comfort level with technology. That brings in point 7 about education. It takes some time to baby-step people into being comfortable (and seeing the value of) some of these tools.

Even if the leadership sees the value and understands its importance, if there isn't a critical mass of adoption in those you are leading the thing won't get off the ground. Timing is everything.

For us the trick has been to get people used to using email as a two-way communication tool instead of just a one-way announcement/broadcast tool. Using chat, blogs (and getting them to comment), etc. As the adoption rate of those basic tools increases it becomes easier to introduce other things that require a bigger buy-in. Ultimately what we are doing is teaching people to be global thinkers instead of local/regional thinkers.