Comments on: Flickering Pixels – Group Blogging Project – Chapter 2

By: Mr Shields: no one calls me that» Blog Archive » Flickering Pixels by Shane Hipps

Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:15:00 +0000

[...] Pixels. I read it as part of a group blogging project hosted on ChurchChrunch. I have already posted three times about this book but I wanted to post one more time to wrap it [...]

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Flickering Pixels – Group Blogging Project – Chapter 11 - ChurchCrunch — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:01:56 +0000

[...] my previous post for chapter 2 , I said that I had a bad taste in my mouth because of previous videos that I had seen with Shane [...]

By: Josh Wagner

Josh Wagner — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:52:38 +0000

Yeah. I certainly have looked at how the medium has influenced the message recently, but mostly in music. (Post on my blog about it, here: http://tr.im/kwSo ) Didn't really think about that in terms of technology as a medium. Will be aware now, though.

By: johndyer

johndyer — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:28:54 +0000

Josh, I think Hipps point is that most people don't give any consideration to how mediums work. For example, youth group boys don't ever consider that breaking up with a girl via text message will send a different message than doing it in person. So Hipps wants to wake us up to start thinking about how and when to use media appropriately.

By: johndyer

johndyer — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:26:20 +0000

Adam, McLuhan like Hipps does say that mediums communicate along with messages (try breaking up with someone via text message instead of in person and see if the effect is different).

However, one of the bigger issues is that media use shapes not only the message, but the speaker. After using Twitter for a year or so, I now find myself thinking in 140 character sound bytes. No matter what message I tweet, the medium of twitter has shaped me.

Recognizing and acknowledging that we make tools and tools remake us is McLuhan/Hipps' point.

By: Adam_S

Adam_S — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:21:22 +0000

I understand what you are saying. And I agree he could be much clearer.

By: Adam_S

Adam_S — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:18:53 +0000

You may be right Dave, but that is not what I have understood. I am trying to read with an open mind, but I am being influenced by some of what I have heard him say in other contexts as well. And if your definition of message is the one he is trying to use, then he really needs to be much clearer. Because he is mixing the use of that word in a variety of contexts.

By: SCBubba

SCBubba — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:15:10 +0000

I think Dave's got the right idea about what "the message" is. The message that was "broadcast" from God is not necessarily "the message" that many people receive. What was sent (and the truth of it) does not, and has not, changed. What is received is affected by the medium as well as other factors (context, prior knowledge, translation, etc).

Shane's book as a whole, I think, is dealing with the message as it is received by people not so much as it is at the source. So, we need to really take a look at the methods we are using when we relay God's message. The methods we used to receive it may have changed what we received vs the original. And how we send it back out will affect how it is received by others.

All that being said, Hipps could have been a little clearer on what he was specifically meaning when he wrote that the message changes…

Sorry for the potentially odd way of saying all that. I'm an engineer and we tend to look at things a little differently…

By: stephenbateman

stephenbateman — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:37:24 +0000

Scripture has a LOT of numbers…so someone must've counted…Evaluation certainly matters to God.

By: phil cunningham

phil cunningham — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:11:47 +0000

I read heard this quote from Bono where he said "let's quit asking God to bless what we are about to do and start getting involved in what God is doing as it is blessed already. In this I have also seen myself and other make their own plans and ask God to bless it.